The Internet Movie Database has shut down its comment threads, but before it did, I rescued the epic rant by "sallyforth-4" about the spanking in Blue Hawaii. There were two posts, and despite the opening of the second, there wasn't really anything notable between them. Enjoy.
FIRST POST
Some of what I was writing about accidentally erased, so I am adding just a bit more here.
The story such as it is, and the way I remember it, is that this girl, and shes a teenager about 16 has a crush on the more mature Elvis. She feels alienated from people and her parents dont have much time for her. So, probably as a cry for help, she makes a suicide attempt by trying to drown herself. And what is the answer to that problem? Well, she gets a first-class spanking on her bottom by Elvis! And this is not supposed to be at all sexualized! No, no therapy or counselling or medication for you, girl. Heres a good spot, right here on the beach. You can just scream the place down as I give you a pair of blazing buns. And that will make ALL your problems go away! So over you go.
And it MOST certainly is not consensual. It is Elvis who first suggests she NEEDS a spanking, not her! She answers: Well, maybe I do. Nobody cared enough....even for THAT. So of course the King takes it upon himself to show her HE cares and over the knee she goes, without further ado. Note that she yells out You WOULDNT DARE!! to which he replies: OH! Wouldnt I? and shows her he most emphatically would. Now, she did NOT ask him to take over the role of the administrator of corporal punishment, and saying YOU WOULDNT DARE!! is everywhere understood in such circumstances as saying NO YOU MUST NOT DO IT.
So you still think this is not sexualised abuse? Well, think of it this way. If THAT poor girl, had been a 16 year old boy who had just tried to drown himself, do you think it would be absolutely OK for Elvis to put HIM over his knee and whale his bottom? Or would that seem kinky and distasteful? But why? If anything, as an man of the same gender as such a boy, it would be MORE appropriate to have such a spanking take place, considering that neither of them are gay. It would be theoretically even OK for Elvis to see the boys bottom bare. But of course that would be regarded as being most weird by the audience, who are interested in seeing ELVIS spank a girl on her bottom, precisely because it is form of sublimated sexual activity, and her thrashing around and screaming can be taken as quite obvious stand in for the taboo sexual intercourse it so deliberately imitates. As it is, it has already been made evident that she is not wearing knickers, and with her thin cotton dress drenched, and with her writhing attempts to escape, of course the cleft of her bottom begins to show clearly through the dress, giving our dutiful Elvis a clear target on both mounds.
Then back to the scene the next day. She is shown in close-up as sitting on two cushions. Why is that necessary? To get across the point that this has not been a couple of token swats. Everyone there at the lunch table seems to know what has gone on, because we suppose she must have been caterwauling across the whole beach for a good half hour! But then there is a piece of dialog which has to be the most blatantly overt reference to soft core sadism in the history of such things. She sneezes, and someone says: Got a cold in the head, to which the nice totally transformed girls smiles like an angel and says (GET THIS!): Oh, just the opposite!
So there you have it. There may have been people there who thought she was sitting on cushions because she had injured her hip or something, and so she might have had at least that small MODICUM of privacy. But no, she HERSELF has got to tell everyone that she has got, not a cold in the head, but a lot of heat in her bottom! And thats said with a look of gratitude to the very man who did it. The only thing she could have done is to have turned around, lowered her knickers (because she would most certainly have been wearing them now that she has been released from sin and silliness), lifted her skirts and given everyone there a good flash of the red and swollen buns. And they would have all applauded her, for sure.
So thats the news. If someone like Elvis is attracted to a young girl he cant have, and who is being a bit bratty, well he can get his jollies by spanking an area of the body that is everywhere regarded as a place of modesty which for adults should be revealed only to ones husband, and hitting her with full force about a half-inch away from her vagina, which has been nicely turned out and up by the way he has bent her over. And the result is, we are told in Cinemascope, and wide screen, is she will, far from being full of natural rage and shame at being violated in this way, be grateful and all but give everyone else a running account of what kind of therapy she has been awarded. Give me a break!
I know that my Mother sees nothing wrong at all with that film and others like it, and she saw it in the theatres in 1962, when theatres were just jam-packed with pubescent girls who simply adored Elvis. She said that when that Elvis spanked that girl, there was such an uproar of laughter and cheering that just about every girl there nearly hit the roof. You could hardly hear the next two minutes of dialog! Well, I dont hold that against Mom, because that was a different time, but I do know that Dad used the strap on her on occasions in much the same way, and she thought that was OK, and probably because look how much benefit that girl got out of it when Elvis did it!
The thing that gets me is that this is 2008, not 1962, and women have professions and rights and they drive and have their own bank accounts. So thats why I feel sore when I see a bunch of young girls watching this at a sleep over, and getting just as excited about the idea of being spanking by Elvis as my Mom did. I asked one girl what she thought about it as Elvis was whaling away. She just looked at me and said Me next!
SECOND POST
I cant believe this debate! Do you think it is really OK for a grown mana teacherto put a half-naked teenage girl over his knee, on a beach, and give her a right royal spanking just after she tried to drown herself? So are you saying any man in authority can hand out a good bottom-warming in public to any girl they think might benefit from it, even if they are not even his kid! Is that the message? The reason that the film bothers to mention that shes not wearing any knickers is so the audience can realise that she is getting it as close to a bare bottom thrashing as you could show, considering that her flimsy cotton dress is completely saturated. And this is the sort of thing that turns on modern girls, does it? Because guys couldnt be bothered watching this stuff.
And just think of this. The DVD shows him giving her 14 hard smacks on the bottom while she kicks up her bare legs and feet. Then it shows the next day. And the first thing you see is a shot of her sitting on a wooden chair that has been cushioned with TWO pillows! That is, a day later, she STILL needs to sit on pillows to ease what must have a pair of red-hot buns! That was no little swat thenit would have been the spanking of a life time. And boy, is she grateful, and cured. Its like thrashing a girl like a horse is sort of the next best thing to curing cancer. Every female should be getting it once a week! And they would be ever so grateful for it.
My mother spanked me once like that, and it needed about 80 slaps to get me to need to sit on pillows, even if it was on the bare. If Elvis had done it today, he would have gone to jail, king or no king. Would you like any man doing that to your teenage daughter? And dont tell me he didnt get a thrill out of it either. The only reason he did it was that he got off on it and he knew that her parents wouldnt be bothered to press charges. And I bet the little sadist organised the horse-riding expedition the next day just so that he could get another smirk watching her wince every time the horse jogged along. Then he would have offered to make it better with some cold cream no doubt.
The sixties and the fifties were full of films in which husbands quite simply spanked wives whenever they were disobedient or even argumentative. I saw McClintlock a few years ago and John Wayne, who REALLY had a spanking fetish in real life, gave Maureen OHara a thorough thrashing with a steel tool of some kind on her partly denuded bottom, in front of the whole town, and then rode away in a wagon while she ran behind it to get on and tell him how sorry she was. Well, nowadays, hardly anyone thinks its OK to spank children. But apparently, if you are the King, or the Duke, or about a hundred others, there is nothing wrong with treating your wife or partner like a little kid who needs to be put over the knee! Hello, what happened to Womens Lib?
FIRST POST
Some of what I was writing about accidentally erased, so I am adding just a bit more here.
The story such as it is, and the way I remember it, is that this girl, and shes a teenager about 16 has a crush on the more mature Elvis. She feels alienated from people and her parents dont have much time for her. So, probably as a cry for help, she makes a suicide attempt by trying to drown herself. And what is the answer to that problem? Well, she gets a first-class spanking on her bottom by Elvis! And this is not supposed to be at all sexualized! No, no therapy or counselling or medication for you, girl. Heres a good spot, right here on the beach. You can just scream the place down as I give you a pair of blazing buns. And that will make ALL your problems go away! So over you go.
And it MOST certainly is not consensual. It is Elvis who first suggests she NEEDS a spanking, not her! She answers: Well, maybe I do. Nobody cared enough....even for THAT. So of course the King takes it upon himself to show her HE cares and over the knee she goes, without further ado. Note that she yells out You WOULDNT DARE!! to which he replies: OH! Wouldnt I? and shows her he most emphatically would. Now, she did NOT ask him to take over the role of the administrator of corporal punishment, and saying YOU WOULDNT DARE!! is everywhere understood in such circumstances as saying NO YOU MUST NOT DO IT.
So you still think this is not sexualised abuse? Well, think of it this way. If THAT poor girl, had been a 16 year old boy who had just tried to drown himself, do you think it would be absolutely OK for Elvis to put HIM over his knee and whale his bottom? Or would that seem kinky and distasteful? But why? If anything, as an man of the same gender as such a boy, it would be MORE appropriate to have such a spanking take place, considering that neither of them are gay. It would be theoretically even OK for Elvis to see the boys bottom bare. But of course that would be regarded as being most weird by the audience, who are interested in seeing ELVIS spank a girl on her bottom, precisely because it is form of sublimated sexual activity, and her thrashing around and screaming can be taken as quite obvious stand in for the taboo sexual intercourse it so deliberately imitates. As it is, it has already been made evident that she is not wearing knickers, and with her thin cotton dress drenched, and with her writhing attempts to escape, of course the cleft of her bottom begins to show clearly through the dress, giving our dutiful Elvis a clear target on both mounds.
Then back to the scene the next day. She is shown in close-up as sitting on two cushions. Why is that necessary? To get across the point that this has not been a couple of token swats. Everyone there at the lunch table seems to know what has gone on, because we suppose she must have been caterwauling across the whole beach for a good half hour! But then there is a piece of dialog which has to be the most blatantly overt reference to soft core sadism in the history of such things. She sneezes, and someone says: Got a cold in the head, to which the nice totally transformed girls smiles like an angel and says (GET THIS!): Oh, just the opposite!
So there you have it. There may have been people there who thought she was sitting on cushions because she had injured her hip or something, and so she might have had at least that small MODICUM of privacy. But no, she HERSELF has got to tell everyone that she has got, not a cold in the head, but a lot of heat in her bottom! And thats said with a look of gratitude to the very man who did it. The only thing she could have done is to have turned around, lowered her knickers (because she would most certainly have been wearing them now that she has been released from sin and silliness), lifted her skirts and given everyone there a good flash of the red and swollen buns. And they would have all applauded her, for sure.
So thats the news. If someone like Elvis is attracted to a young girl he cant have, and who is being a bit bratty, well he can get his jollies by spanking an area of the body that is everywhere regarded as a place of modesty which for adults should be revealed only to ones husband, and hitting her with full force about a half-inch away from her vagina, which has been nicely turned out and up by the way he has bent her over. And the result is, we are told in Cinemascope, and wide screen, is she will, far from being full of natural rage and shame at being violated in this way, be grateful and all but give everyone else a running account of what kind of therapy she has been awarded. Give me a break!
I know that my Mother sees nothing wrong at all with that film and others like it, and she saw it in the theatres in 1962, when theatres were just jam-packed with pubescent girls who simply adored Elvis. She said that when that Elvis spanked that girl, there was such an uproar of laughter and cheering that just about every girl there nearly hit the roof. You could hardly hear the next two minutes of dialog! Well, I dont hold that against Mom, because that was a different time, but I do know that Dad used the strap on her on occasions in much the same way, and she thought that was OK, and probably because look how much benefit that girl got out of it when Elvis did it!
The thing that gets me is that this is 2008, not 1962, and women have professions and rights and they drive and have their own bank accounts. So thats why I feel sore when I see a bunch of young girls watching this at a sleep over, and getting just as excited about the idea of being spanking by Elvis as my Mom did. I asked one girl what she thought about it as Elvis was whaling away. She just looked at me and said Me next!
SECOND POST
I cant believe this debate! Do you think it is really OK for a grown mana teacherto put a half-naked teenage girl over his knee, on a beach, and give her a right royal spanking just after she tried to drown herself? So are you saying any man in authority can hand out a good bottom-warming in public to any girl they think might benefit from it, even if they are not even his kid! Is that the message? The reason that the film bothers to mention that shes not wearing any knickers is so the audience can realise that she is getting it as close to a bare bottom thrashing as you could show, considering that her flimsy cotton dress is completely saturated. And this is the sort of thing that turns on modern girls, does it? Because guys couldnt be bothered watching this stuff.
And just think of this. The DVD shows him giving her 14 hard smacks on the bottom while she kicks up her bare legs and feet. Then it shows the next day. And the first thing you see is a shot of her sitting on a wooden chair that has been cushioned with TWO pillows! That is, a day later, she STILL needs to sit on pillows to ease what must have a pair of red-hot buns! That was no little swat thenit would have been the spanking of a life time. And boy, is she grateful, and cured. Its like thrashing a girl like a horse is sort of the next best thing to curing cancer. Every female should be getting it once a week! And they would be ever so grateful for it.
My mother spanked me once like that, and it needed about 80 slaps to get me to need to sit on pillows, even if it was on the bare. If Elvis had done it today, he would have gone to jail, king or no king. Would you like any man doing that to your teenage daughter? And dont tell me he didnt get a thrill out of it either. The only reason he did it was that he got off on it and he knew that her parents wouldnt be bothered to press charges. And I bet the little sadist organised the horse-riding expedition the next day just so that he could get another smirk watching her wince every time the horse jogged along. Then he would have offered to make it better with some cold cream no doubt.
The sixties and the fifties were full of films in which husbands quite simply spanked wives whenever they were disobedient or even argumentative. I saw McClintlock a few years ago and John Wayne, who REALLY had a spanking fetish in real life, gave Maureen OHara a thorough thrashing with a steel tool of some kind on her partly denuded bottom, in front of the whole town, and then rode away in a wagon while she ran behind it to get on and tell him how sorry she was. Well, nowadays, hardly anyone thinks its OK to spank children. But apparently, if you are the King, or the Duke, or about a hundred others, there is nothing wrong with treating your wife or partner like a little kid who needs to be put over the knee! Hello, what happened to Womens Lib?
Statistics: Posted by js666 — Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:15 am